Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 04:30:08 PDT From: Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group Errors-To: TCP-Group-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: TCP-Group@UCSD.Edu Precedence: List Subject: TCP-Group Digest V94 #239 To: tcp-group-digest TCP-Group Digest Wed, 26 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 239 Today's Topics: 2400 NPRM (2 msgs) ENCAP under Linux (4 msgs) FCC files NPRM to sell 2400 MHz Amateur Band Ham Radio IP encap for Linux JNOS on linux Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed. (3 msgs) unsubscribe Send Replies or notes for publication to: . Subscription requests to . Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the TCP-Group Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 18:06 PDT From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: 2400 NPRM I got to the FCC's server, but can't find the NPRM. The proposal would reallocate 2390 to 2400, 2402 to 2417, which is less than the entire 2400 MHz band, though if this were to go through I fear that the rest of the band might soon follow those two segments. Bruce Perens AB6YM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 22:17:39 -0400 From: Jim De Arras Subject: 2400 NPRM Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 18:06 PDT From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) To: tcp-group@UCSD.EDU Subject: 2400 NPRM I got to the FCC's server, but can't find the NPRM. The proposal would reallocate 2390 to 2400, 2402 to 2417, which is less than the entire 2400 MHz band, though if this were to go through I fear that the rest of the band might soon follow those two segments. Bruce Perens AB6YM Is this it?? Jim ------------------------ Report No. DC-2586 ACTION IN DOCKET CASE April 20, 1994 FCC SEEKS COMMENT REGARDING ALLOCATION OF SPECTRUM BELOW 5 GHZ TRANSFERRED FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USE (ET DOCKET NO. 94-32) The Commission is seeking information on potential applications for 50 megahertz of spectrum that is being transferred immediately from Federal Government to private sector use. The Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1993 (Reconciliation Act), required the Department of Commerce to identify 200 megahertz of spectrum below 5 GHz that can be reallocated from Federal Government to private sector use within the next 15 years. The Reconciliation Act also required that 50 megahertz of the spectrum identified be available for immediate reallocation to private sector use and that the FCC adopt regulations to allocate, and propose regulations to assign, this first 50 megahertz of spectrum by February 10, 1995. The spectrum identified for immediate reallocation is at the bands 2390-2400 MHz, 2402-2417 MHz, and 4660-4685 MHz. The Commission's goal is to ensure that spectrum reallocated for private sector use will provide for the introduction of new services, and the enhancement of existing services. These new and enhanced services will create new jobs, foster economic growth, and improve access to communications by industry and the American public. Possible advances in communications will contribute to the development of the national information infrastructure which will provide American industry and consumers access to rapid and flexible information networks essential to competition and the global market. The Commission is asking for comment as to the services to which the 50 megahertz of spectrum should be allocated and on specific rules for use of this spectrum to ensure that it is used to its maximum potential in meeting the Commission's goal. The Commission noted, however, that there are a number of factors associated with existing allocations of the bands that will affect their potential for private sector use. (over) -2- The Commission emphasized that the focus of this Inquiry is on uses for the three bands available for immediate reallocation and commenters should limit their consideration to these bands. The Commission stated that use of the remaining 150 megahertz of spectrum identified by the Department of Commerce for delayed reallocation will be considered at a later date. However, the Commission encourages interested parties to participate in the Department of Commerce's process to make a final identification of spectrum for reallocation by filing comments with the Department. Action by the Commission April 20, 1994, by Notice of Inquiry (FCC 94-97). Chairman Hundt, Commissioners Quello and Barrett. -FCC- News Media contact: Patricia A. Chew at (202) 632-5050. Office of Engineering and Technology contact: Steve Sharkey at (202) 653-8151. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 08:23 PDT From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: ENCAP under Linux Oh, I saw that he wanted an "ENCAP Ether" device and thought he meant a pseudo-ethernet driver to encapsulate IP packets in AX.25, not IPIP (which I thought was called IPTP but that's another issue). Please tell us about your IPIP encapsulation for Linux, I am going to need to use tunneling on my system soon. Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 10:24:07 +1000 From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin) Subject: ENCAP under Linux At 9:15 PM 24/10/94, wrote: > There is no need for an ENCAP Ether device under Linux, as Linux has > native AX.25 . FTP sunacm.swan.ac.uk and look under /pub/Linux/Radio, There is a need for an IP and AXIP encap devices for Linux so that Linux can be used as a gateway. Carl. -- Carl Makin (VK1KCM) "Speaking for myself only!" makinc@hhcs.gov.au 'Work +61 6 289 8443' Canberra, Australia 'The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland"; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman.' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 08:23 PDT From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: ENCAP under Linux Oh, I saw that he wanted an "ENCAP Ether" device and thought he meant a pseudo-ethernet driver to encapsulate IP packets in AX.25, not IPIP (which I thought was called IPTP but that's another issue). Please tell us about your IPIP encapsulation for Linux, I am going to need to use tunneling on my system soon. Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu (Ron Atkinson) Subject: ENCAP under Linux > There is a need for an IP and AXIP encap devices for Linux so that Linux > can be used as a gateway. Yup, and as my mailbox was suddenly flooded today by all kinds of request for the IP encap daemon, I guess I'll just have to upload it now :-) There is a IPIP daemon for BSD that Bdale messes with (you can get that at col.hp.com). I ported it over to Linux. John Paul Morrison (can't remember the call) also did the same port and both of ours were virtually identical. I used his Makefile though since I had mine in BSD format and used pmake to compile it. Now you can just use make. Since this really isn't the easiest thing in the world to setup and it took me a while messing with it on my machine and a couple others on the Internet to make it function as a gateway with both Internet and amateur addresses on the same machine at the same time, when I get home tonight I'll get everything together and include some sample config files that I came up with and tar/gzip it all together. I'll probably also just finish the #ifdef LINUX in the code anyways since this way we can keep one piece of code rather than seperate BSD and Linux versions. Just have different Makefiles and use the one that you need. After I got everything running I was just too lazy to finish the rest, but I'll get to it tonight. Also I have no idea on an AXIP daemon or source. I thought that that stuff was originally written on Unix and ported to NOS, but I may be wrong. If it exists for Unix (probably BSD) then I'm sure it'll be easy to port over. -- Ron N8FOW AMPRnet : n8fow@n8fow.ampr.org Internet : ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu aa011@detroit.freenet.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 16:44 PDT From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: FCC files NPRM to sell 2400 MHz Amateur Band The FCC has filed the Notice of Proposed Rule Making to transfer the 2400 MHz Amateur Band to commercial services. The privilege of using the band would be sold at auction. Currently I can't FTP to site FCC.GOV, probably because so many other people are downloading the NPRM. Bruce Perens ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:59:56 -0400 From: StevenA868@aol.com Subject: Ham Radio request info Stevena868@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 04:14:38 -0400 (EDT) From: ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu (Ron Atkinson) Subject: IP encap for Linux I uploaded the file ipip.tar.gz to ftp.ucsd.edu in the /hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming directory. This is a derivation of Mike Westerhof's ipip daemon for Unix machines with code for both BSD and Linux machines. Make sure you look at the various README files first. There are 2 Makefiles included, one for BSD and the other for Linux. There's very few changes done in the code to make it compile under Linux, mainly just a few function name changes, but that's transparent to the person compiling since the Makefile handles what type of OS you're compiling on. If I broke the BSD side of things then let me know what to change, I can only test it on Linux here. Also the munge script that's included that was written by Bdale does things slightly out of order on me when I run it under Linux. I usually just manually move a few things around and add in the first route that it misses from the gateways file. If anyone gets it running better then please send it to me. -- Ron N8FOW AMPRnet : n8fow@n8fow.ampr.org Internet : ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu aa011@detroit.freenet.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 10:48:58 +0900 From: harada@ka2sho.mis.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (HARADA Koichi) Subject: JNOS on linux Hi, I downloaded j109lxA3.tgz, and am trying to compile it. Everything goes well except the lack of getattrs. In what library is this function included. My environment: Linux kernel 1.1.54, ncurses-1.8.1. Thank you in advance. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Koichi Harada Hiroshima University harada@aspen.mis.hiroshima-u.ac.jp 81(Japan) 824-24-6475 (voice) 824-24-0756 (FAX) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 22:21:39 GMT From: Pinchook Ronen <4z4zq@pc.4z7aba.ampr.org> Subject: Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed. Hi All I'm Looking for radio drivers for Unix , that Will Allow me to operate packet (by connecting TNC In Hostmode Or KISS To Unix System ... Any Help would be apruciated .... Thank's Forward Regard's Ronen Ronen Pinchook (4Z4ZQ) Mail :Internet : 4z4zq@haifa.ampr.org 4z4zq@4z4zq.ampr.org Packet : 4z4zq@4x4hf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 15:52 PDT From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed. First, to correct my mis-statement of yesterday, Domenico was asking about IP tunneling, not an AX.25 pseudo-ethernet driver as I thought. In that context my answer to him was complete nonsense. Ron NF8OW (ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu) mentioned that he has IPIP running in a daemon on his Linux system. Ron, please give us the details and is the source available? Ronen wants AX.25 drivers for Unix. You can run WAMPES (available from ftp.ucsd.edu) or you can wait for the next Debian Linux release which will have Alan GW4PTS kernel AX.25 software available in turn-key form. You didn't mention what version of Unix you are running. Linux runs on the 386. There is some AX.25 software available for Suns, too, somewhere on ftp.ucsd.edu . To hear about new Debian Linux releases, send a message to debian-announce-request@pixar.com with the word "subscribe" in the message body. Bruce Perens AB6YM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 01:27:24 CST From: k5yfw@k5yfw.ampr.org (Walter D. DuBose - K5YFW) Subject: Packet Radio Drivers For Unix Needed. In message <30881@pc.4z7aba.ampr.org> Ronen writes: > Hi All > I'm Looking for radio drivers for Unix , that Will Allow me to operate > packet (by connecting TNC In Hostmode Or KISS To Unix System ... > Any Help would be apruciated .... > Thank's Forward > Regard's > Ronen > > Ronen Pinchook (4Z4ZQ) > Mail :Internet : 4z4zq@haifa.ampr.org > 4z4zq@4z4zq.ampr.org > > Packet : 4z4zq@4x4hf > That would be very interesting for an application I have. I manage a DoD Unix host that is used for local contingency and emergency communications including the National Disaster Medical System (NDMS). Making one tty port a TCP/IP connection thru a TNC at 19.2 KBPS to a 70 cm transceiver is very attractive and would bring much favorable notice to ham radio at the highest levels of the DoD and federal govenment. 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